Ghostbusters 2

Corrected entry: The Ghostbusters 'frost' the inside of the Statue of Liberty and are shown dousing it in a rather wasteful, abundant way - with just two backpacks of slime. That's just a comically small amount of produce for such a huge monument. And they even have plenty left for the battle with Vigo. (01:27:30)

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Correction: 1. You have no idea how much positive slime they have made 2. You have no idea how much slime is needed to make the statue of liberty come to life. It is only fiction after all, made up by the movie makers, so they are allowed to make the rules. It's not a mistake in the movie, at all.

lionhead

It is indeed fiction! I am merely saying that with two backpack tanks they 'frost' the inside of a 151 feet tall monument, and they have plenty more to spare. I do admit to not having the technical specs of psychoactive slime and what the recommended usage in public monuments engineering is. On a macroscopic scale, it feels a little off.

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Correction: As shown with the toaster, you don't need to completely cover something in slime to animate it. Remember, a small drizzle made the toaster dance. They seem to spray a comparatively scaled-up amount inside of the statue. You also have to factor in the fact that emotions are shown to have an effect on the volume of slime - strong emotions cause more slime to generate. (Which is why there's so much in the first place. We also see this happen during the courtroom scene.) Chances are, the backpacks are constantly being "refueled" by their emotions or the positivity they are generating.

TedStixon

For the 'small drizzle', Ray made sure to pour the thing back and forth through the whole length of the slit, effectively coating its interiors, and they splooge that thing all over the place in, a randomic and wasteful way, which we see before any of it expands because of the goodwill of people - which by the way never happens, at least it's never represented in the shots of the Statue; if at any point they showed the statue bubbling with power, charging because of the positivity or something, we'd never have had the conversation about the museum either. It's not that I missed what the film said, it's just that it's more often than not contradicted by what it is shown.

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I literally just loaded up the scene - it was a small drizzle, in no way do they "effectively coat the interior" of the teaser. And how precisely can you say it's a "random and wasteful way"? Do you have personal experience bringing statues to life with slime? At no point does the film contradict itself. It shows early on that a certain volume of slime can bring a small object (the toaster) to life, and then pays it off later with a larger object. (The statue). Also, they do indeed show energy flowing through the slime in the statue when the music starts... you literally see like bolts/electricity/energy moving through it.

TedStixon

The 'energy' part was referred to the properties of the slime to increase in volume and such, you don't see that going on even in the scene when it flashes activating because of the music. I haven't had experience bringing statues to life with slime (at most applying gels in cove joints), but I had experience talking with other people about the movie, and we all laughed at the fact that they had a seemingly unlimited amount of slime, but hey, you can always meet other people with a different view and it was just my little bubble.

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TedSixton makes an excellent point that I forgot, the slime increases in volume when more positive energy is added. You can go many ways with this theory, even so philosophical as to say the statue of liberty is such a positive symbol that the slime that was sprayed on it started to grow immediately simply because of what the statue of liberty represents or perhaps in a way has already gathered all positive energy of the city into itself, which is why it came to life. Not a mistake in any case.

lionhead

Corrected entry: During the scene in the subway with the river of slime, as Egon, Ray and Winston are measuring the depth of the river Winston's equipment begins to pull him into the slime. During the struggle to stop this Egon is heard to shout the name Ernie, the actor who plays Winston.

Correction: He doesn't shout "Ernie!", he shouts "Hurry!"

Corrected entry: When Ray is being lowered through the hole in Maine street, he hasn't reached the river of slime yet, but you can see slime dripping from the device he later uses to take a sample.

Correction: I've watched the scene numerous times, I just don't see the slime dripping, until after he takes the sample. I've slowed it down as well...just don't see it. In all fairness though to the OP, there is a metal teat at the end of the device that would look like a drip of slime in some shots.

Corrected entry: When Ray and Egon are analysing the photos and talking about what sort of take-away to have, Vigo manages to slide the bolt on the door shut. Presumeably this is the only door into the room, so the bolt has to be on one side of the door or the other (being a dark room, it should be on the inside to prevent anyone else coming in). Why didn't they just slide the bolt back? If the bolt was on the other side of the door, then Winston could have slid it back instead of smashing the door open with the fire extinguisher. (00:56:47)

Correction: Actually one of them does try to open the bolt from the inside but can't because the Vigo guy must be controlling it still.

Corrected entry: At the end of the movie you see the Statue of Liberty looking down from the rooftop, and then you don't see it the next time we see the rooftop. Then it's on the ground. How can it move without them controlling it?

Correction: Because it fell over, which requires only gravity.

LorgSkyegon

Also I think they are not controlling it, the positive slime turned it sentient.

lionhead

Corrected entry: When the heroes walk the statue of liberty across New York Harbour, her head etc, are well about the waterline. Yet if you measure the statue herself and find out the depth of the harbour in some places, it would have been impossible for her to take that walk and not "drown". (01:28:23)

Correction: The key phrase is "some places." The Ghostbusters could have mapped out a route along the harbor that would make sure they didn't get submerged.

Correction: The harbor is only 62 feet deep at the deepest point, and the statue is well over 100 feet tall.

Corrected entry: Louis is wearing Egon's ghostbusters uniform. The uniform shouldn't fit, because Egon is much taller than Louis.

Correction: You can see while Janine is zipping it up and when he runs out of the firehouse, that the suit is extremely baggy on him, as would be expected because of the height difference.

LorgSkyegon

Corrected entry: Near the end of the movie, the Ghostbusters are controlling the Statue of Liberty through the streets of New York City. At one point, the statue accidentally steps on a parked police car, smashing it seemingly beyond repair. However, it is fairly easy to notice that the police car is "changed" from a real one to a model - possibly even a Matchbox car - right before the statue's foot comes down on it. Slow motion and/or pausing is NOT needed to see this. It is clear that a (bad) edit was put into place here. The primary tell is that the car's lights go off a split second BEFORE the statue's foot makes contact with it.

Brittle Fingers

Correction: I've watched this scene in slo-mo over and over again. The car is NOT replaced, and the lights do NOT turn off. The car does become slightly pale and a thick black line appears around it, but that is because of the blue screen effect. The car is always the same.

Sacha Premium member

Corrected entry: Why does everyone in the mayor's office and the police think the Ghostbusters are crazy and lock them up? You would think they would believe their story, It couldn't be too outlandish considering a few years before a giant Marshmellow man attacked the city.

Correction: It was implied that the 'bad vibes goo' was making everyone in New York crazy, and not just people who really touched it.

Correction: It's only Hardmeyer played by Kurt Fuller that has them committed without telling the Mayor or anyone else. He does this when the Ghostbusters say they're going to the press.

Corrected entry: Winston is present at the trial for Ray, Egon and Peter, but when the slime erupts, he's nowhere to be found when the Ghostbusters could really use the help!

neiliohara

Correction: He had no proton pack or other equipment, so he may have been trying to keep himself safer and to keep the others from having to protect him. Besides, we don't see him except for the first part of the trial. He may have been gone later.

Greg Dwyer

Corrected entry: When the Ectomobile, on the way to the birthday party, is driving down the road, you can see that it has the NY plate with the Statue of Liberty on it, which is correct for 1989, but it should have still had the orange plate such would be correct for 1984, when the Cadillac would have been registered.

Correction: License plates can fall off over the years, requiring replacements. Especially when one drives around as quickly as Ray.

Captain Defenestrator

Corrected entry: During the entire scene where the Statue of Liberty is just outside of the museum, a green screen can be seen in the background anytime there is a closeup of one of the actors in the statue.

Correction: It is not a green screen, the inside of the statue is actually green.

Sacha Premium member

Corrected entry: In some shots the slime is red and in other shots it is pink.

Correction: This is because of the different levels of light on the slime in different places and at different times.

Corrected entry: The film takes a large liberty when portraying the Titanic. The Titanic we see is complete with a huge hole in one side. The real sinking was nothing like this with small gashes made along the front of the ship, which eventually split in two. There was no large gaping hole like that made when she hit the iceberg. The Titanic was found four years before the film was made, so it was known at that time what condition the Titanic was in. (01:20:35)

Correction: It's a ghost ship, so I think we can forgive them for this, just like the ghost train in the subway scene, because it was a steam engine, which never would be in a subway tunnel like that.

This isn't a valid correction. The ghost train appearing on the subway tracks is different and had nothing to do with the way the Titanic ghost ship looked.

Bishop73

They are both ghost vessels, not the actual machines, it is understandable that they will look different on the etheric plane.

They aren't the actual machines sure, but there isn't any reason why a ghost ship would pick a physical appearance with severe damage that is in a different spot from the original. The explanation is not in 'the etheric plane' but in poor research (not that in a movie like this matters) or the fact that it simply is more impactful visually to show that sort of gaping hole. It is a factual error even if we understand very well why it was made - call it Deliberate Mistake if you will.

Sammo Premium member

The people are the ghosts, not the ship. The ship never picked the appearance. One can assume the ghosts made the Titanic alongside themselves, from memory. Since the victims never actually saw the damage, this is what they thought it looked like.

lionhead

We don't know who picked the appearance of the Titanic or the ghost train and how any of the 'supernatural' works, other than the end result is factually inaccurate. There's no reason to try to find metaphysical justifications for a clear creative liberty the art department took without giving it a second thought. Which is exactly what the original poster said; "The film takes a large liberty when portraying the Titanic."

Sammo Premium member

It's just a matter of opinion whether they are allowed to take that liberty or not. If they did it intentionally, it's not a mistake.

lionhead

The thing is, 99% of Factual Errors in movies are very likely to be liberties taken for convenience of the plot or better visual impact (like I said, Titanic=big hole in the hull from iceberg, the audience instantly makes that mental association and feels more real than reality). That's why as long as the observation is accurate and not strikingly obvious (such as "ghosts don't exist") I wouldn't try to read the intent in it too much.

Sammo Premium member

Corrected entry: The male psychic on Peter's show that says that the world will end on New Year's Eve was in the first film. He was the guy on TV asking Ray "How's Elvis, and have you seen him lately?"

Correction: No, it's not the same person. The man in "Ghostbusters II" was character-actor Kevin Dunn, while the man in the original "Ghostbusters" was radio/TV host Joe Franklin.

TedStixon

Corrected entry: Two of the Ghostbusters are examining their evidence, and one of them puts a picture of the man in the huge painting into a device similar to a photocopier. Problem is, the picture comes out the other end of the device before it has entirely finished going in.

kh1616

Correction: It's a spectral analyzer. Eagon also turns up the roentgens, a unit of measurement for radiation, which presumably makes the device more sensitive. It analyzed the spectral presence within the photograph and printed out a visual representation of that presence. The printout that discharged from the device has nothing to do with the original image that was actually photographed and fed into it, therefore the spectral analyzer does not need to scan the entire photographed image to create this facsimile of the spirit possessing the photographs. In other words, the machine was able to "see" the ghost and print out a picture of it before the entire photo had been scanned. Not out of the question at all, especially for completely fictional technology.

Phixius Premium member

It's a fascinating explanation that proves that you'd be great at writing sci-fi tech for a series or movie (I say it unironically, legit love the write-up), but I don't see any visual or conceptual hint in the movie that supports it? It looks like they feed a picture to a copier and the output comes out before the original picture has gone through the apparatus. Visually the photo rolling in is such a minor detail it's almost unnoticeable.

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Corrected entry: In the scene where Ray and Egon are in the dark room analyzing the photos they took at the museum, watch as they run the one photo through the "spectral analyzer". As they put the photo into the machine on the left side, the photo goes throught the machine at a very slow pace. You can see the photo as they are talking about what food they should get. The photo is about halfway through the machine on the left, when the entire photo magically appears on the right hand side of the machine and is finished being analyzed. When they pull the completed photo out of the right side of the machine, you can see the original photo still being analyzed on the left side. (00:56:26)

Correction: They're analyzing all the photos. The machine is obviously capable of scanning another photo while analyzing a previously scanned photo.

Phixius Premium member

Ray says that he'll run "this wider shot" and Egon specifically tunes the machine for it; it'd make no sense for the machine to print a different picture from the one they are specifically discussing.

Sammo Premium member

Corrected entry: When the Statue of Liberty makes its entrance in the streets of New York, close observation shows that the statue actually steps on a bunch of people.

BillyBlake

Correction: How is this a mistake? The guys cannot see exactly where the statue is going, and she is stepping on cars and other objects, so why not a few accidental people?

wizard_of_gore Premium member

Oh so it's not a poorly placed optical effect; the movie wants to tell us that the Ghostbusters are actual mass murderers. Just great.

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Corrected entry: In the final scene where the Ghostbusters are coming out of the Museum, where did their proton packs and slime blowers go?

Correction: As noted by Tully as he proudly put on a proton pack, then ran about 20 feet and had to stop to catch his breath, and saying "this equipment sure is heavy" one can assume the other ghostbusters definitely needed some relief after having them on for so long.

They are not just removing them for a minute to stretch their legs, they are walking out of the museum and going home - that'd be an exceedingly bad time for them to not bring them along and leave their unlicensed nuclear reactors behind without any real reason.

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Continuity mistake: In the abandoned railway station scene, when the heads on stakes appear, you can see in the first shot, Winston is wearing his hardhat after that there is a split-second shot and it disappears. In the very next shot it reappears. (00:59:51)

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Question: What exactly happened to the Ghostbusters between the first film and this film? Why was a restraining order taken out against them?

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Chosen answer: After the initial high of saving the city from Gozer wore off, they were blamed for the danger in the first place and sued out of business. The restraining order was additional insult to injury.

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