Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back

Continuity mistake: When Luke is attacked by the ice creature all the scars are on the right side of his face, but right before he talks to Obi-Wan you see a big scar on the left side of his face, then when he talks to Obi-Wan you can see there are no scars on the left side of his face.

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Revealing mistake: When Luke is talking to Han over the comlink, there's a shot of Han riding a tauntaun. The animal leaves no tracks in the snow. (00:03:35)

Revealing mistake: When the medical droid tests Luke's mechanical hand at the end of the film, his thumb moves before the "muscle." (02:00:40)

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Continuity mistake: After Luke places the thermal detonator inside an AT-AT, he falls to the ground. The AT-AT takes only one step before the charge goes off, but when the AT-AT explodes, it is much further away from Luke than one step.

Visible crew/equipment: When Luke and Vader are fighting in the carbon-freezing room, in the wideshot after Luke does a somersault, a crew member is visible in the steam on the right side of Vader, moving out of the way. (01:40:50)

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Continuity mistake: When the stormtroopers push Leia into the cell in Cloud City, she is wearing a completely different outfit from when she was taken captive. (01:25:20 - 01:28:35)

Continuity mistake: When Han and Leia are bickering in the corridor on Hoth, Han says, " Well, the bounty hunter we ran into on Ord Mantell changed my mind." In the next shot, behind them, there's a man walking past them that wasn't there in the previous shot. (00:05:55)

Continuity mistake: When Yoda is teaching Luke, he is strapped to Luke's back in a rucksack. When Luke puts Yoda down, the little Jedi master is still inside the bag. Luke then reaches for his jacket, and in the next shot of Yoda, he has in a few seconds managed to get out the bag and is now sitting next to it. He is not even sitting in the same place as in the previous shot, and is also holding a walking stick he didn't have when Luke put him down.

Continuity mistake: As noted in another mistake, when Han, Leia and Chewbacca are taken captive in Cloud City, two of the stormtroopers change position between shots. This also happens to some of the other troopers, as well as to Lobot, Lando's aide. This is best seen in the widescreen version.

Visible crew/equipment: When the Snow Speeders are looking for Luke and Han, you can see the blue screen reflected on the angled side of the pilots' goggles.

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Revealing mistake: After C-3PO gets shot, as Chewbacca walks over to the door, his right foot crushes one of the steps on a small set of stairs. (01:19:25)

Continuity mistake: When the Rebels pick up the signal of the Imperial probe droid, general Rieekan says, "Princess - we have a visitor." In this close-up, his head is straight, but in the next shot, he is standing in a different place, leaning forward. (00:17:35)

Continuity mistake: When Han gets off the taun-taun when he is searching for Luke, the upper part of his jacket and the garment over his chin is covered in snow. In the next shot facing Han, the snow is gone.

Continuity mistake: At the fight between Luke and Darth Vader, after Luke pushes Vader to fall down from the top of the hibernating cabin, he looks down with the lighting light sabre in the hand. He goes back and we hear the switch-off sound of the light sabre, he comes back three meters left of the point he looked down and in his hand is the switched-off sabre. But as he goes back before this, we can see the end of the prop-light sabre taken out of Luke's hand and obviously the off-prop sabre is given in his hand.

Continuity mistake: As Major Derlin and another Rebel officer talk before the shield doors are closed, another officer walks under the starship Leia's standing by. In the next shot, he's gone. (00:11:30)

Continuity mistake: When Vader attempts to turn Luke to the dark side, the wires hanging from the structure that Luke is holding onto change in number and position between several shots.

Continuity mistake: When Luke uses the Force to lift a rock, the rock is much higher above the ground in the close-up than in the wide-shot. (01:05:45)

Continuity mistake: When Luke is standing on his hands while using the Force to lift a rock, he is distracted. As he collapses, the rocks on the ground are different and in a different position from the rocks seen in the shot before Yoda says, "concentrate." (01:06:00)

Continuity mistake: When Luke drops down in pain after his hand is cut off, he is not holding onto the pole with his other hand (watch closely), but in the next shot, his hand is now clutching the pole. (01:46:00)

Continuity mistake: At the rebel base on Hoth, the Falcon is being repaired in a hollowed-out snow cave. When Han blasts off out of the cave, none of the debris on the floor or in the cave moves at all, nor is there any effect from the Falcon's exhaust.

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Trivia: This was the only movie in the Star Wars series until Episode VII in 2015 without a scene on the planet Tattooine.

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Answer: The short, short answer to this is "Yes... from a certain point of view." The long answer is complicated and depends completely on what timeframe you mean by "always." If you're going back all the way to the early rough drafts of the early-mid 70s (which actually resemble Episode I more than they do the Star Wars of 1977), you'll find there's a cyborg father figure protagonist that makes a heroic sacrifice, and then another character that is a "black knight" villain that eventually turns to the side of good near the end. Just to make things more complicated, there is yet another character, a villain by the name of "Darth Vader" that is a human Imperial officer like Grand Moff Tarkin. It may be a stretch to count all that as "Darth Vader was always the father" but the pieces were all there, at least.

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(1) Now the earliest explicit mention on any documented material that Darth Vader is Luke's father comes from notes Lucas made outlining the general story of the trilogy and its place in the larger Star Wars saga. These were found in the archives for The Empire Strikes Back, but they are undated and we don't know if they were written before Star Wars (1977) and carried forward, or if they were written afterward. These were found fairly recently (made public in 2010) and as far as I know Lucas has never commented publicly about them.

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(3) One thing we know, at least, is that Lucas had come up with the idea of Darth Vader the father before starting work on The Empire Strikes Back. Something incredibly odd, though, is that the first draft written by Leigh Brackett does not feature the twist (and in fact introduces Anakin himself as a ghost); for a long time many fans took this as proof that Lucas hadn't thought of the idea at all by then, but after the series outline was discovered it was made apparent that Lucas simply hadn't told Brackett for some reason. Perhaps he wasn't sure yet that he wanted to go through with it, or maybe at that point he was thinking of revealing it in the third film. Either way, Lucas would write the second draft himself, and that's where the twist first appears in script form.

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(2) Something that must be understood about Star Wars (1977) is that it was an ALTERNATIVE to his original plans of a saga. By then he didn't think it was realistic that he would be able to make a long series of many movies, so he came up with a "Plan B": he crammed the general story of the trilogy into one movie. So we know that when Star Wars (1977) was filming, Darth Vader was NOT Luke's father, because this one movie was IT, that was the whole story. But what we DON'T know, is whether that means Lucas had abandoned the idea of Vader being the father in order to simplify the story, or if Lucas simply hadn't thought of that at all just yet.

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(2, cont.) On a side note, you can tell by watching Star Wars (1977) how it has condensed the story of the trilogy. The middle portion has the characters trying to escape capture from the Empire while one of them loses a duel with Darth Vader (like The Empire Strikes Back) and the third act is a final battle against the Death Star above a forest moon (like Return of the Jedi). The first act features a member of royalty on the run while a couple of protagonists find the main hero on a desert planet, resembling the original drafts and by extension Star Wars: Episode I. Because of this we've arguably never actually had a "pure" first chapter to the original trilogy, even though Lucas eventually had the film serve this purpose anyway.

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Answer: Yes, however, he didn't want anyone to KNOW about it. In fact, the original script said "'Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.' 'He told me enough... he told me YOU killed him!' 'No, Obi-Wan killed your father'" Even Hamill was only told the real line just before shooting, so his reaction is somewhat natural.

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