Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back

Other mistake: In the original version, in the first wideshot of the Super Star Destroyer, on the right side of the screen, the light of a Star Destroyer (but nothing else of it) can be seen just flying through space for two seconds before it disappears. This mistake is fixed in the Special Edition.

Continuity mistake: After Leia, Han and Chewbacca walk down the stairs in the carbon-freezing chamber, as the shot ends, Han is turning towards a stormtrooper behind him. In the next shot, he is turned in a different direction, and Leia's head is facing another way. The position and existence of some of the people around them changes between the two shots as well. (01:31:10)

Other mistake: When the Star Destroyers are seen for the first time, in the second shot, some of the TIE fighters that fly over a Star Destroyer are transparent.

Audio problem: After Han goes to the command centre during the battle on Hoth, Leia says to a controller, "Send all troops in sector twelve to the south slope to protect the fighters," but the words don't match her lips. (00:30:35)

Continuity mistake: During Luke's and Vader's lightsaber duel, Vader says, "Release your anger" and in the next shot their interlocked lightsabers have switched positions.

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Visible crew/equipment: When the Wampa (ice creature) kills Luke's Tauntaun, the end of the "glove" used as the Wampa's arm can be seen in the bottom left corner, as well as the arm of the crew member wearing it. Widescreen version only. (00:03:55)

Continuity mistake: After the carbonite block is pulled out of the carbonite freezer, there's a close-up of Leia leaning towards Chewbacca. In the next shot, she is not leaning on him, and then Chewie pulls her towards him again. (01:33:05)

Revealing mistake: After Luke's hand is cut off, he squeezes his forearm under his left armpit, and in the first shot of him clutching a pole, the knuckles of Mark Hamill's hand can be seen through his shirt, under his left arm. (01:46:00)

Continuity mistake: When Luke is holding on to the antennae-like assembly underneath Cloud City, right before and after the hatch closes, the distance between a thin pole and his left arm keeps changing between shots. (01:48:25)

Continuity mistake: When Vader cuts through the three poles at the end of the lightsaber duel, Luke is crouching down next to them. In the next shot, he is standing upright. (01:45:50)

Continuity mistake: When Luke is first attacked by the wampa (ice creature), the amount of blood on him changes between shots.

Continuity mistake: When Vader cuts through three poles at the end of the lightsaber duel, there are different poles in the shot where he cuts through them and the next shot where they fall. (01:45:50)

Continuity mistake: When a one-legged 3PO is standing in the Millennium Falcon, begging R2-D2 to fix him, he is holding the severed leg by the knee, with the foot closest to the floor. Some shots later, he is holding it by the foot, with the knee closest to the ground.

Continuity mistake: When Lando releases Leia and Chewbacca, as Leia says, "What do you think you're doing?" her body is turned in a different direction from the previous shot, and she's holding the blasters differently. (01:37:55)

Continuity mistake: When Janson (Wedge's gunner) fires the harpoon at a leg of an AT-AT, in the first shot of the snowspeeder flying around the AT-AT, the speeder casts a shadow on the snow. In all other shots of this sequence, there is no shadow of the snowspeeder.

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Continuity mistake: When Han is trying to keep Luke warm, his rank insignia badge alternates between being on the right and left side of his chest. The amount of snow on Han and Luke's clothes also changes repeatedly, especially Luke's.

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Continuity mistake: When Han and Leia kiss in the Millennium Falcon, Leia's arms are around Han's head in the wideshot, but not in the close-up. (00:49:55)

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Continuity mistake: Viewed from inside, the hotel where Leia, Han and Chewbacca are in Cloud City has a flat glass roof, but viewed from outside, it is flat with sloped edges. (01:22:25)

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Continuity mistake: During the escape from Hoth, C-3PO is far behind Han and Leia as they are running to the Millennium Falcon after the cave-in blocks their path. When they reach the door, he is much closer to them. (00:32:40)

Continuity mistake: During the escape from Cloud City, Chewbacca is shooting at the stoormtroopers while R2-D2 tries to open the door. The wall he is hiding behind keeps changing between shots, and the burn mark on the wall also changes a few times, without any laser beams hitting it.

Yoda: Told you, I did. Reckless is he. Now, matters are worse.
Obi-Wan: That boy is our last hope.
Yoda: No. There is another.

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Trivia: The Special Edition covers of Return of the Jedi and Empire Strikes Back are wrong. The picture of the Emperor on ESB cover is from 'ROTJ', and the lightsaber duel between Luke and Vader on the cover of ROTJ is taken from 'ESB' (notice Luke is in his fighter pilot suit, and Vader is fighting him one-handed)

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Answer: The short, short answer to this is "Yes... from a certain point of view." The long answer is complicated and depends completely on what timeframe you mean by "always." If you're going back all the way to the early rough drafts of the early-mid 70s (which actually resemble Episode I more than they do the Star Wars of 1977), you'll find there's a cyborg father figure protagonist that makes a heroic sacrifice, and then another character that is a "black knight" villain that eventually turns to the side of good near the end. Just to make things more complicated, there is yet another character, a villain by the name of "Darth Vader" that is a human Imperial officer like Grand Moff Tarkin. It may be a stretch to count all that as "Darth Vader was always the father" but the pieces were all there, at least.

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(1) Now the earliest explicit mention on any documented material that Darth Vader is Luke's father comes from notes Lucas made outlining the general story of the trilogy and its place in the larger Star Wars saga. These were found in the archives for The Empire Strikes Back, but they are undated and we don't know if they were written before Star Wars (1977) and carried forward, or if they were written afterward. These were found fairly recently (made public in 2010) and as far as I know Lucas has never commented publicly about them.

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(3) One thing we know, at least, is that Lucas had come up with the idea of Darth Vader the father before starting work on The Empire Strikes Back. Something incredibly odd, though, is that the first draft written by Leigh Brackett does not feature the twist (and in fact introduces Anakin himself as a ghost); for a long time many fans took this as proof that Lucas hadn't thought of the idea at all by then, but after the series outline was discovered it was made apparent that Lucas simply hadn't told Brackett for some reason. Perhaps he wasn't sure yet that he wanted to go through with it, or maybe at that point he was thinking of revealing it in the third film. Either way, Lucas would write the second draft himself, and that's where the twist first appears in script form.

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(2) Something that must be understood about Star Wars (1977) is that it was an ALTERNATIVE to his original plans of a saga. By then he didn't think it was realistic that he would be able to make a long series of many movies, so he came up with a "Plan B": he crammed the general story of the trilogy into one movie. So we know that when Star Wars (1977) was filming, Darth Vader was NOT Luke's father, because this one movie was IT, that was the whole story. But what we DON'T know, is whether that means Lucas had abandoned the idea of Vader being the father in order to simplify the story, or if Lucas simply hadn't thought of that at all just yet.

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(2, cont.) On a side note, you can tell by watching Star Wars (1977) how it has condensed the story of the trilogy. The middle portion has the characters trying to escape capture from the Empire while one of them loses a duel with Darth Vader (like The Empire Strikes Back) and the third act is a final battle against the Death Star above a forest moon (like Return of the Jedi). The first act features a member of royalty on the run while a couple of protagonists find the main hero on a desert planet, resembling the original drafts and by extension Star Wars: Episode I. Because of this we've arguably never actually had a "pure" first chapter to the original trilogy, even though Lucas eventually had the film serve this purpose anyway.

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Answer: Yes, however, he didn't want anyone to KNOW about it. In fact, the original script said "'Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.' 'He told me enough... he told me YOU killed him!' 'No, Obi-Wan killed your father'" Even Hamill was only told the real line just before shooting, so his reaction is somewhat natural.

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