Venom: Let There Be Carnage

Plot hole: A core plot point (lifted by the comics) is that Venom needs phenethylamine, and the only way to get it is from brains and from chocolate. Let's just go with it and forget the fact that phenethylamine can be legally purchased as dietary supplement, which would solve every problem. So, Venom gets incredibly angry because Mrs. Chen's shop ran out of chocolates, and *therefore* they need to go raid a chicken plant to eat some chicken brain. Uh, Venom lives in San Francisco. Chocolate is sold everywhere. If Mrs. Chen ran out of it, there are hundreds of stores and vending machines that have it in abundance. The escalation does not make sense.

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Suggested correction: The point is he needs to steal it. At Mrs. Chen's shop he gets it for free because he protects her from robbers. Eddie doesn't have the money to buy all the chocolate Venom needs all the time. Stealing some chickens as an alternative is better than trying to shoplift at a different store.

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In the rest of the movie Eddie lives in his old apartment constantly in need of repairs, but shows zero serious money problems. He has lavish breakfasts, and he replaces the $2,000 TV the same day. Raiding the chicken place appears riskier than slipping his symbiote in a vending machine or shoplift, especially if it's just temporary - again assuming he's so poor that he literally has no money to eat, which is something the movie should have let us know, instead of pointing to the contrary and making him talk angrily about the need for them to not draw attention.

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Not only are the original mistake and Sammo 100% correct, but chocolate isn't exactly expensive. You can get 5 pound bulk orders of melting chocolate on Amazon for like... $25. And that's just a quick 2-second Amazon search. You could probably get it even cheaper elsewhere online. Even if Eddie hypothetically has little money (which doesn't seem to be the case - he has a nicely sized apartment in a major city, new TV, etc.), it's still ridiculous that he couldn't get his hands on chocolate. This is definitely a case of the movie ignoring practicality and reason to manufacture a funny situation.

TedStixon

I agree. There are many other stores that sell candy so all Eddie had to do was to go to one of those instead. Plus, at the end of the first movie, Eddie told Ann that he was going to become an investigative journalist, so he has a new job.

Suggested correction: Which would you rather have phenethylamine, chicken, or chocolate for dinner? That's like saying just because we need food to survive...we should just eat anything or buy our base vitamins and minerals over the counter and from the store.

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Sure. How does that have anything to do with the entry? Venom wanted chocolate for dinner and not chicken, supplements to a diet don't mean that you can't eat actual food and the main point was and is that if a store in a metropolis is sold out of chocolate of any kind, there are a dozen other stores in a few blocks' radius who sell it without you having to resort to crime to eat it.

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Continuity mistake: When Venom delivers the mail to Eddie while making breakfast, the letters are angled differently in the various shots, in Venom's cute little pseudo-hand first, between Tom Hardy's big paws after. (00:23:40)

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Continuity mistake: At the beginning of the "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off" scene, Eddie already poured the orange juice and put it down before Venom messes with the radio and fridge. We see then symbiote's tentacle pass in front of Eddie's hand, which is suspended in mid-air still pouring. Then we cut back to the original angle and Hardy is about to drink from the glass, the orange juice carton well set on the table. (00:23:05)

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Continuity mistake: Venom 'saves' a woman that is being mugged; when they hold the evildoer upside down plotting to eat him, the woman witnesses the scene wide-eyed. Her necklace is in a different position between the background feature and the close-up on her. (00:16:40)

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Revealing mistake: If you look at the drawing in front of Eddie when he glances down at it after Venom typed in the name of the beach, it's only a crude draft of the one in close-up (it's missing the wave lines below the cliff outline, for instance). (00:11:20)

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Other mistake: At the beginning of the movie, Shriek reads an article mentioning that Cletus' story is "coming to an end", and Eddie is credited with uncovering "what the FBI and police could not " That doesn't fit with Eddie supposedly down on his luck and badly needing a scoop; and in fact the tagline is the same that will appear in printed and audio news later when Eddie does rise to fame again by discovering the bodies. Also, the article talks about Eddie Brock, but somehow is WRITTEN BY Eddie Brock.

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Continuity mistake: In the first "Present day" scene, the Ravencroft wardens enter Shriek's cell to feed her. She is lying on one side in the establishing dolly, and she's just lying on her back in the next shot. (00:04:10)

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Continuity mistake: When Young Shriek blows Young Detective Mulligan's eardrum (just one for some reason), he grabs his own ear clutching his fingers around it. In the next shot his hand is turned around in a different way. (00:02:45)

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Deliberate mistake: When Kasady and his symbiote are fighting for control at the bell tower, they are reflected inside Venom's eyes...who is lying on his back in the middle of the cathedral and is nowhere near and at the totally wrong angle for a reflection like that to happen. (01:15:50)

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Continuity mistake: When Anne purrs "I love seeing you in action", Mrs Chen lowers her arm, but is still pointing at Dan in the next shot. (01:00:45)

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Continuity mistake: In the beach scene ending, Venom's shadow keep changing between shots appearing inconsistent with the sunset. (01:24:00)

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Continuity mistake: When the priest begs for his life as Carnage threatens his biological symbiotic dad with "Death to you, father", the hand with the bible is higher in the side shots and lower in the intermediate closer camera angle. (01:08:25)

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Revealing mistake: When Venom violently opens the large portal of the church, he barely takes one step but the doors close basically through him. (01:08:15)

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Continuity mistake: During the 'apology' scene in the alley, Anne's hair all of a sudden moves from the left part of her chest going all the way above the shoulder. (01:02:45)

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Continuity mistake: Casady goes "Ta-dah!" on Dr. Pazzo suddenly appearing inside Frances' containment zone. He lowers his arms, which are still raised in the reverse shot. (00:51:25)

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Other mistake: Venom and Eddie are having a domestic dispute. Items rain off the window in front of a homeless person. The other passers-by change between shots. Not only that; in the second shot there's one extra who turns around acting startled by the man's shout. Does not really make sense; heavy objects just crashed down a few feet from him, anyone would have been startled by that first and foremost. Wrong reaction time/ direction of the extras. (00:32:45)

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Revealing mistake: The back of Cletus Kasady's head appear quite different between the semi-POV shot in the car (stunt driver) and the next shot when Woody Harrelson steps out of it and gets to the gas station where he will 'hack the internets'. (00:49:40)

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Continuity mistake: Carnage pins against the wall a prison warden who begs him to spare him. He looks straight ahead and the POV shot displays Carnage's face directly in front of him, but in the side view Carnage's splotchy eyes are in front of the chest of the guy and the tongue has to go up a lot to plunge inside the victim 's oesophagus. (00:38:15)

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Continuity mistake: When Eddie shouts "No!" as the free symbiote vandalizes his bike, he sticks his head out from an apartment completely in the dark, but we saw him run towards the window near the only part of the flat where there are lights still functional and switched on. (00:34:30)

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Cletus Kasady: Every decision we ever make, who do we leave behind? And how do we leave them? Waiting in the darkness, but the rescuer never comes.

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Trivia: Carnage's love interest Shriek will make her movie debut here.

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Question: How did Patrick Mulligan get a piece of a symbiote? He was killed by Shriek, not by a piece of Carnage.

Cody Fairless-Lee

Answer: It is deliberately never shown on screen, so unless it gets answered in a sequel the audience is left to speculate. Mulligan does come into direct contact with Carnage since Cletus is the person who kidnapped him. In addition, the fight between Venom and Carnage takes place all over the church with the pair constantly stabbing, slashing, and bludgeoning each other. A piece of either symbiote could be somewhere in that building. Again, though this is just speculation since it's never shown how Mulligan is infected.

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